Asus X299 Mark 1 Tuf Will Post Once but Not Again
[SOLVED] Postal service fails only when second dimm installed ASUS TUF X299 Marker 2
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Intel 7740x Processor
Kingston HyperX 2400MHz 16Gb
EVGA 1080 SC2 gpu
Western Digital SN750 SSD 1Tb
I know at that place'due south memory bug with using this combo however I only want to use ii slots anyways and everything I've read says it should be compatible. I've had a hyper x furry 16Gb stick in the C1 slot since I've built the computer and information technology's always worked. As soon equally I put in an boosted i I bought (aforementioned verbal model. I put it on the D1 every bit the manual for 4 cadre) information technology fails to boot into bios and is left with the orage "dram" led on afterwards flashing a merely. I've tried hitting MEMOK, I've tested each stick (100% operational). I am typically infrequent at troubleshooting and I've never had to inquire a question on how to set an issue before but I am absolutely baffled as to what'south wrong!? I even decided to kicking it with i stick in C1 like normal and went into the bios, at which point I installed the other stick in D1 while information technology qas on(I know... dangerous! But needed to see) and then I booted into the memtest and information technology recognizes it. Also when I went back to the bios (past exiting memtest, not rebooting) it showed upward in the right D1 dimm and all the correct speed and chapters just when I salve and exit the reckoner refuses to utilized the newly recognized stick of ram! Then information technology is also non a faulty dimm slot! Removed by Moderator I am literally desperate here. Also to those that have realized I literally copied this title from an already existent thread. It's considering it's the same result, just none of the given solutions worked. Thank you to anyone that can help!
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You still accept a trouble though. You are merely running your ram in unmarried channel mode by using only the C aqueduct slots. Equally you already tried, only couldn't get working, channels C and D are the only manner to become dual channel fashion working. In that location has to exist a bent or shifted pivot in the CPU socket, otherwise something else is wrong with the CPU or the motherboard.I did not. However. I've been messing with where I put the dimms since I accept four now. And fifty-fifty thought the a and b slots won't work I was just throughing crap to the wall... and guess what... it stuck.. in dimm slots b1 b2 c1 c2, it recognized c1 and c2. Even though the transmission states to put it on c1 d1 for 6 core it doesn't work. But in c1 c2 it works. I took the b1 and b2 out and the c2 c2 still worked. I besides tried it with different dimms to see if it would work with non paired ram and it does. And so I'chiliad going to return the pair of ram I just got. Just in essence, for no apparent reason, information technology now works. But only when it's installed in c1 and c2 slots. Asus needs to update the manual I guess...
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Did information technology actually kick into Windows? It sounds similar you have the memory reserved issue that pops up nearly every day with someone adding more ram to their system, but it's not usable.Also when I went back to the bios (by exiting memtest, not rebooting) information technology showed upward in the correct D1 dimm and all the correct speed and capacity but when I save and exit the figurer refuses to utilized the newly recognized stick of ram! So it is also non a faulty dimm slot!
If merely one-half the ram is showing upwardly in Windows every bit usable, left click the Windows icon and type in search msconfig and open msconfig.exe. Open the Kicking tab, click Advanced options and uncheck Maximum memory if information technology'south checked off. Click OK, and then click use and so click restart in the dialog box.
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Ram is sold in kits for a reason.
A motherboard must manage all the ram using the same specs of voltage, cas and speed.
The internal workings are designed for the capacity of the kit.
Ram from the aforementioned vendor and part number tin be made up of differing manufacturing components over fourth dimension.
Some motherboards, can be very sensitive to this.
If yous can, render the stick in favor of a matched 2 ten 16gb kit.
Sometimes, increasing the ram voltage in the bios will atomic number 26 out some incompatibilities.
Try that first.
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What you want and what the pc wants are oft non the same thing, if C1/D1 isn't working right, try a different setup.
The fact you are using mismatched ram, from 2 different kits guarantees only one thing, that at that place are no other guarantees the ram will be compliant. You may accept to add together one stick, ready timings manually looser, add an extra 0.05v to the dram voltage, bump upwards memory controller voltage, save, and so try adding the second stick. In different slots. Read the manual, has the slot assignments.
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I don't call back at that place'south a fashion to go to a solution.One thing I would try is reseating your cpu. And do information technology with the power off and unplugged!
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Kabylake-X and Skylake-X are slightly different with ram, and then can depend on exactly how the mobo is setup. Some recommend A1/B1 for Skylake-10, C1/D1 for Kabylake-X, and other boards don't care about cpu, but recommend A1/C1 for 2x sticks.What you want and what the pc wants are often not the same matter, if C1/D1 isn't working correct, try a different setup.
The fact you are using mismatched ram, from 2 different kits guarantees only 1 thing, that there are no other guarantees the ram volition exist compliant. Yous may accept to add one stick, ready timings manually looser, add together an extra 0.05v to the dram voltage, crash-land up retentivity controller voltage, save, then try adding the 2nd stick. In different slots. Read the transmission, has the slot assignments.
They are identical sticks of ram simply bought about 6 months apart. And when I say Identical I hateful I literally bought them from the same amazon link and vendor. And so in theory compatibility shouldn't be an issue since the 2x16 packs are just these two sticks sold together. And with the 7740x the A and B slots can't exist utilized but I take fiddled with every combination possible. Hither they are https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07WCQRMWQ?psc=i&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_titleKabylake-X and Skylake-X are slightly unlike with ram, so can depend on exactly how the mobo is setup. Some recommend A1/B1 for Skylake-X, C1/D1 for Kabylake-X, and other boards don't care nigh cpu, but recommend A1/C1 for 2x sticks.What you want and what the pc wants are ofttimes non the same affair, if C1/D1 isn't working right, try a unlike setup.
The fact yous are using mismatched ram, from 2 different kits guarantees only one thing, that at that place are no other guarantees the ram will exist compliant. Y'all may take to add one stick, set timings manually looser, add an extra 0.05v to the dram voltage, bump up retention controller voltage, salve, so try adding the second stick. In different slots. Read the manual, has the slot assignments.
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I will save that option every bit last resort. They are identical sticks of ram just bought about 6 months apart. And when I say Identical I hateful I literally bought them from the same amazon link and vendor. Then in theory compatibility shouldn't be an upshot since the 2x16 packs are simply these two sticks sold together. Here they are https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07WCQRMWQ?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_titleYous did non buy an identical second stick.
Ram is sold in kits for a reason.
A motherboard must manage all the ram using the same specs of voltage, cas and speed.
The internal workings are designed for the capacity of the kit.
Ram from the same vendor and part number can be made upwards of differing manufacturing components over time.
Some motherboards, can exist very sensitive to this.If y'all can, return the stick in favor of a matched ii 10 16gb kit.
Sometimes, increasing the ram voltage in the bios volition iron out some incompatibilities.
Endeavour that first.
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The ram itself is made of silicon chiplets, IC'south. Each of those IC's is cutting out of a sheet of silicon, which is unique in limerick. Every sheet has dissimilar levels of impurities in it, a little atomic number 82 or copper or gold or argent iron, nickle etc. And so each IC responds differently to voltages and current.
Y'all see the Primary timings, the 16-19-19-39, when there's well over 40 Secondary and Tertiary timings also. All of those timings are affected by the type and levels of impurities contained in the IC's.
And so you tin buy 2 kits. Identical in every unmarried manner. From the aforementioned shop. On the same shelf. From the same box. On the aforementioned day. At the same register. At the same fourth dimension, and accept totally incompatible ram.
Corsair sent me some replacement sticks years ago. The manufacturing numbers were but 9 numbers autonomously. Literally one stick came off the assembly line nine sticks after the other. Totally incompatible. Would non work. Yous'll see stuff like that all the time, buy a quad kit and 3 sticks are consecutive, the 4th is iii or 4 or 5 numbers apart every bit even those sequent sticks won't play.
Ram is only manufactured past a handful of OEMs, like SkHynix or Samsung or Micron. They make ram for every vendor. Who buys it under contract according to whom is cheapest. So you can have identical ram on the outside, 2 sticks with same model heatsink, color, speed, everything, but on the inside of 1 stick is 4x SkHynix chiplets, and on the other stick is 8x Samsung.
At that place's a reason why information technology's strongly advised to never mix kits, purchase what you lot want the first time, fifty-fifty if information technology ways selling the one-time ram. Considering there's simply no guarantee they'll piece of work and no guarantee a store will bandy sticks after yous've opened the parcel.
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Ok. I'll purchase a set of ram today. I should but take a few days to get here so I'll keep the thread updatedRam that you lot see on the outside is nothing more a chunk of metal and a paint job.The ram itself is made of silicon chiplets, IC'due south. Each of those IC's is cut out of a sail of silicon, which is unique in composition. Every sheet has different levels of impurities in information technology, a little pb or copper or golden or silvery fe, nickle etc. So each IC responds differently to voltages and electric current.
Y'all meet the Master timings, the 16-19-xix-39, when there's well over 40 Secondary and Tertiary timings besides. All of those timings are affected past the type and levels of impurities contained in the IC's.
Then you can purchase 2 kits. Identical in every single way. From the aforementioned store. On the same shelf. From the same box. On the aforementioned twenty-four hours. At the aforementioned register. At the same time, and have totally incompatible ram.
Corsair sent me some replacement sticks years ago. The manufacturing numbers were only 9 numbers apart. Literally ane stick came off the assembly line 9 sticks after the other. Totally incompatible. Would not work. You lot'll see stuff similar that all the time, buy a quad kit and 3 sticks are consecutive, the 4th is 3 or 4 or v numbers apart as even those consecutive sticks won't play.
Ram is merely manufactured by a handful of OEMs, like SkHynix or Samsung or Micron. They brand ram for every vendor. Who buys information technology nether contract according to whom is cheapest. And then you can have identical ram on the exterior, 2 sticks with same model heatsink, color, speed, everything, but on the within of 1 stick is 4x SkHynix chiplets, and on the other stick is 8x Samsung.
In that location's a reason why it'due south strongly advised to never mix kits, buy what you want the start time, fifty-fifty if it means selling the quondam ram. Because at that place's simply no guarantee they'll work and no guarantee a shop will bandy sticks afterwards you've opened the package.
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So anyway, as was already said, it's probably just incompatible modules.
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So as I thought. It is not the individually bought ram that is the issue. The pair of 16gb sticks came from amazon today and I've spent hours trying to boot by mail service. And it'south declining yet again. I and then tried to put all four sticks in because why not? And however nothing. Each fourth dimension I tried I allow the bios go through all the memory sequences but however no success. What's the side by side step hither? I feel similar I'm out of options for in one case...No worries, we'll be here 👍
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So wondering if this isn't a similar thing.
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I did not. However. I've been messing with where I put the dimms since I have four now. And even idea the a and b slots won't work I was just throughing crap to the wall... and estimate what... it stuck.. in dimm slots b1 b2 c1 c2, information technology recognized c1 and c2. Even though the transmission states to put it on c1 d1 for half-dozen core it doesn't work. Merely in c1 c2 it works. I took the b1 and b2 out and the c2 c2 yet worked. I besides tried information technology with dissimilar dimms to see if it would piece of work with not paired ram and it does. And so I'm going to return the pair of ram I just got. Merely in essence, for no credible reason, it now works. But only when it's installed in c1 and c2 slots. Asus needs to update the manual I gauge...Using the new ram, did y'all bump upwards it'south voltage a little, and maybe the memory controller voltage as well? Just watched a jays2cents video, he had the same matter, windows failing to kicking, only bios fine. He went through everything, replaced gpu, ram etc. He finally left, and his helper decided to redo the prior overclock (test bench worked fine prior) and that was the answer. Seems during the transition betwixt bios and windows, the cpu hitting a single indicate of low power and it wasn't plenty to Kickstart the boot up. Past adding voltages and raising the llc etc, at that place was more ability to the cpu and all was good. Before long every bit windows started upwards, it took over voltage regulation etc.So wondering if this isn't a similar thing.
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You nonetheless have a problem though. You are just running your ram in single aqueduct mode by using only the C channel slots. As you already tried, but couldn't get working, channels C and D are the only way to get dual channel mode working. At that place has to be a bent or shifted pin in the CPU socket, otherwise something else is wrong with the CPU or the motherboard.I did not. Withal. I've been messing with where I put the dimms since I have four now. And even idea the a and b slots won't piece of work I was just throughing crap to the wall... and guess what... it stuck.. in dimm slots b1 b2 c1 c2, it recognized c1 and c2. Even though the transmission states to put it on c1 d1 for vi cadre it doesn't work. But in c1 c2 it works. I took the b1 and b2 out and the c2 c2 still worked. I too tried it with different dimms to meet if information technology would work with non paired ram and it does. So I'm going to return the pair of ram I just got. But in essence, for no apparent reason, it now works. But simply when it's installed in c1 and c2 slots. Asus needs to update the manual I estimate...
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Well unmarried aqueduct 32 is better than dual nothing haha. I don't really accept an selection at this betoken only I approximate I'll try the next mail service down even tho the a and b channels won't piece of work with this processor. Worth a shotYous still have a problem though. Yous are just running your ram in unmarried aqueduct mode by using just the C channel slots. As y'all already tried, but couldn't get working, channels C and D are the only way to go dual aqueduct fashion working. There has to be a bent or shifted pin in the CPU socket, otherwise something else is wrong with the CPU or the motherboard.
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The a and b channels are useless with the 7740x. They won't fifty-fifty piece of work. Only this motherbaord seems to screwy I'll give it a attempt. If information technology helps at all I bought this mobo the second day it was out so it might have some first iteration problems I suppose. Very unlikely tho with the amount of testing these things become throughDid you lot endeavor B1/C1 or A2/C2 etc to see if it'd work dual channel not using D slots?
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Past its very nature, the testing done on the board is limited equally the amount of time in manhours lone information technology would accept to really thoroughly exam the boards would brand release dates extremely hard to impossible to lucifer. And much of the equipment like cpus and ram etc comes out After initial boards designs are released. The amd B550 is due for release in July, and the X570 has been out a while, but the 4000 series cpus won't drop until August or later.
Initial release problems on your board? That'due south a possibility, if a slim one, but still a good thought that I'd non personally dominion out.
I practice have fingers crossed that you lot tin can go dual somewhere, would be nice, but if single channel is it, and then every bit yous say, 32Gb single is better than 0Gb dual.
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Yup. I tried every dual channel possibility likewise since my last comment. As I thought it won't even recognize anything in a or b no matter the configuration. Literally the only sparse that's working is the c channel. I'm gonna go on a limb and presume no one will ever have this problem. Seems to be merely my luck with this particular mobo. Thanks for all the help anyway. Much appreciatedLol, tell that to AMD, 1st gen Ryzens went a very long time earlier getting 'by and large' stock-still for ram issues, they are still advocating updating bios, fifty-fifty for 3rd gen, regularly.By its very nature, the testing done on the board is limited as the corporeality of time in manhours alone it would take to really thoroughly test the boards would make release dates extremely hard to incommunicable to friction match. And much of the equipment similar cpus and ram etc comes out After initial boards designs are released. The amd B550 is due for release in July, and the X570 has been out a while, but the 4000 series cpus won't drop until August or later.
Initial release problems on your board? That's a possibility, if a slim ane, simply still a good thought that I'd non personally rule out.
I do take fingers crossed that you can get dual somewhere, would be nice, simply if single aqueduct is it, then as y'all say, 32Gb single is better than 0Gb dual.
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You missed my comment well-nigh a shifted or bent CPU pin in the socket. That is often the cause of a memory channel not working with LGA sockets. You can try to set up the upshot by reseating the CPU. Y'all take it out of the socket, check for bent pins and fix them with a needle or similar small thin object. Then place the CPU back in the socket, reapply thermal paste and try it again. This also tin can sometimes prepare PCIE slots not working or the system boot looping after existence moved effectually. Sometimes shifted or bent pins is caused by improper installation of the CPU cooler.Yup. I tried every dual channel possibility likewise since my last comment. As I thought it won't fifty-fifty recognize anything in a or b no matter the configuration. Literally the only thin that's working is the c channel. I'grand gonna keep a limb and assume no one volition ever have this problem. Seems to be simply my luck with this particular mobo. Thanks for all the help anyway. Much appreciated
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